Outdoor Wisconsin | Program | #3321


(light music) – We’re wrapping up our 33rd
season of Outdoor Wisconsin here at the Urban Ecology
Center in the Menominee Valley. In just a few minutes,
Deb Wolniack hikes the Ice Age Trail,
in the southern unit of the Kettle
Moraine State Forest. And then we’ll stop in at
Robert’s Defense in Oshkosh to learn how they make
custom 1911 hand guns. But first, Emmy Fink visits
Eugster’s Petting Farm during spring lambing
and kitting days. I’m Dan Small and it’s time
once again for Outdoor Wisconsin ♪ Summer to fall,
winter to spring ♪ From Green Bay to where
the Saint Croix sings ♪ Kettle Moraine
to Superior Shore ♪ Outdoor Wisconsin ♪ Outdoor Wisconsin Spring is a time of renewal and it’s the time when many
wild animals and farm animals have their young. There’s nothing cuter than
a baby lamb or a goat kid as Emmy Fink learned when she visited
Eugsters’s Petting Farm during lambing and kidding days. (guitar music) – It started off as my
husband’s family dairy farm. And I think around 72 they
did the dairy herd buyout, so then it was primarily
a produce farm. Produce is, you know it’s
very much feast or famine. Sometimes a bad drought, you
just really have a hard time, and it’s a weather
related business. So over time they,
two of the brothers found different careers and then Joe and I continued
the produce business and then we added in
the animal factor. So then slowly but
surely we built a small petting farm, and then we finally had children and we would watch
our kids and go, oh my gosh, they love that, let’s build this for everyone. (guitar music) – What do you guys like
most about coming out here? – Basically we love animals, so it’s really nice
to be able to like pet them, you know, because
we don’t live on a farm. – It’s 354 acres. It’s a functioning full farm. We have musk melon
and tomatoes and beans and sweet corn and pumpkin, so we also have the
agritourism farm in the front, but we’re also a full
functioning farm. As far as animals go, I’m gonna go right
down the list. We’ve got a donkey, a
mule, about five horses. This is Blossom, she’s
a cooney cooney pig. And they came out of New Zealand then went to Hawaii, and are really getting
pretty popular. Now we have cooney cooneys
because they’re super docile and if you look at their nose, their snout is more upright, so they don’t dig. A lot of the
traditional pigs dig and then our display
doesn’t look so great. So they’re mostly grazers. They feed on literally
one measuring cup, not a scoop, but one
measuring cup a day. And she’s a big ole girl. A lot of goats, we have 17
pregnant Nigerian dwarves. So that’s gonna be
a lot of babies. So that will probably be
another 30 or 40 babies. And then we have
five dairy breed and they’ll have babies, so it gets to be
a lot of animals. But we have really
high quality ones so a lot of them end up
getting sold to 4-H kids. We have about 30 chickens. Our staff is trained, they discuss a chicken
produces one egg a day, and if you ask most city kids, they’ll be like, five, three, you know they don’t
really even know, so it’s a lot of
learning going on. Probably five to 10
rabbits at all times. The interesting this
about Shetland sheep, well first of all it’s very
nice against your body, but the Shetland sheep
literally come from the Shetland Islands and if you think
about historically, they didn’t have
power and electricity, so the Shetland sheep,
it’s called rooing. So they would roo out the sheep, so literally you can pluck
out the wool like that. And it’s one of the only breeds, she’s not quite
ready to roo yet, so she’s like hey I’m not ready. So this is how they
did it on the islands. And it’s just a natural way, I mean no electricity,
self-sufficient, so these people lived you
know, thousands of years with the wool product
without, just plucking it out. – [Emmy] That’s so interesting. – So it’s called rooing. – [Emmy] And how many times do
they, are they ready to roo? – Once a year. And that’s in the spring. So that’s why some of
the sheep look like they’re a little bit, you know the rolls coming out. Other breeds don’t do that. And it’s very soft
up against your body. – [Emmy] Yeah it
obviously wouldn’t hurt. – No it doesn’t hurt at all. So the turkeys have
been a great attraction because they’re so verbal and city kids just
love the interaction. So usually if you clap your
hands or if you gobble, you can get them to respond. (gobbles) There you go. So when my staff is out here, they always encourage the
customers to gobble at them and the kids will giggle
and giggle and giggle and they will
gobble all day long. What you’re experiencing today is our lambing and kidding days. Which is, really this only
our third year of doing this. And we started doing this because we were getting
some customer feedback. Normally we start our season
when public school lets out, so somewhere in the
first week of June. And we had feedback,
and customers were like, can we see the babies
when they’re just born? And we’re like, well, you know, the staff isn’t around,
and it’s just, you know, we hadn’t really
thought it through. So we started a lambing
and kidding days. We did all the same things, but we just did it
behind closed doors and not open to the public, so this is our third year of
the lambing and kidding days. So that’s April weekends, and it’s super popular. I mean our staff
holds the animals, sometimes depending on
the age of the animals we let the customer, but we always take
care of the animals, depending on its age. So it’s a very tactile visit. You get to touch chicks and
ducklings and lambs and goats. – Okay this has been the
best part of the day so far. Look at these little guys. Tell us what these are, Carol. – Okay these are Shetland sheep. They are registered
Shetland sheep and we’re part of the Fine
Fleece and Wool organization. This is Mike and Ike and their mom, the
ewe, is Constantine. – They’re so cute. – We try to name them by theme. So this year we’re naming
all the lambs candy, so it’s gonna be
movie theater candy. We have bottle babies,
so we have Mike and Ike and we have Juju Fruit
and all sorts of, otherwise it gets to
be a lot of animals. – That’s gotta be, that’s
gotta be one big task. And you name all the animals? – We do, we name
as many as we can, especially the bottle babies. We’ll have probably, we don’t
have a lot of bottle lambs. If we have triplets
we’ll usually pull one so it doesn’t burden the mom. But like the goats,
they all have a name, and we have about 40 or 50 goats and I know every one by name, which is like a
kindergarten class. They have their
little personalities. But the lambs, I have to, they get to start
looking a lot alike. So you 20 out in a pasture, and unless you can
see their ear tag. – You have to really
go for the spots. – Yeah like he’s
perfect, it looks like. So I was thankful to
Constantine to help us out with the dot on the back there. – So is this Mike or Ike. – That is Ike and this is Mike. We have a Dot already on the
farm so it couldn’t be Dot. – Perfect. – I’m such an animal lover. It’s such a great experience to be able to touch
things and see things and just be out in the outdoors. I just heard on the
radio the average child is only outdoor a
half hour a week, and this is an opportunity
for families to come out and it’s at least a
two to four hour visit, depending on your schedule. And our animals are just
so handled and so friendly that it’s just a great
experience for them. (guitar music) – Spring is also a
great time for a hike on one of Wisconsin’s
many trails, like the Hank Aaron trail
here in the Menominee Valley. Let’s join Deb Wolniack
and a group of hikers for a spring hike
on the Ice Age trail in the southern unit of the
Kettle Moraine state forest. – Welcome to the Kettle
Moraine State Forest, southern unit. We’re here at Whitewater and
Ice Age trail parking lot. The head of the south
end of the Ice Age trail. (happy music) – Well I started hiking
with my dogs everyday and I kept on running
into all these people, and I, you know, every
Wednesday I’d run into them, finally I look at them and says, who are you people? And they said, oh we’re
with the Ice Age trail, and I looked up
and said, the what? – We have regular hikes every
Wednesday morning at 10:30 and every Tuesday at
four in the afternoon. These are free, open to the
public, doesn’t cost anything, but you do need a state
park sticker to park. And we hike in
all weather except blizzards, hail
storms, and tornadoes. – Today is a spring hike, and we’ve walked
around Lake Lagrange and we’re looking for
flowers and for wildlife. We did see two sandhill cranes. The pasque flowers are
almost ready to bloom. Last Wednesday we saw
hepaticas in the woods. And more and more will
come as we get rain and sun and rain and sun. – This hike is two
point eight miles and we see quite
a bit of the lake during about the second
third of the hike. Part of it’s on
the Ice Age trail, the rest of it’s
on the access trail and the horse trails, because the Ice Age
trail is not a loop, it’s a point to point trail, so the only way you
can go around something is to combine the Ice Age
trail with something else to bring yourself
back to the beginning. At this time of
year, early spring, the only things that you
can count on blooming are the pasque
flowers out there, one of the early
spring ephemerals, which means they’re in
bloom for a very short time. They’re a protected species, so people should not be
walking around in the areas where pasque flowers bloom, and the more common
one is hepaticas. Another early spring ephemeral but it lasts a lot longer
than the pasque flowers. They’re tiny flowers, maybe
a half inch in diameter. Their colors range from
white to pink to darker pink, magenta, pale blue,
medium blue, dark blue, and almost purple,
depending on the plant, with white statements. They’re absolutely gorgeous. – Well we’ve seen a lot
of interesting things. We seen deer, fawns, I seen two little fawns
once when we were hiking. And we’re noisy, I’m
surprised we seen them, and they were over by county
p as we went down the hill. And it was very interesting. You see a lot wild animals. We see egrets,
they’re beautiful. Sandhill cranes. – [Ellen] Well when
you start up the trail, you’re going up a
rather steep hill, and there’s a fine view
at the top of the hill as well as a bench
to appreciate it, and then you’re going down a
series of rocky switchbacks. The trail is zig
zagged down the hill so that water doesn’t
run straight down it. And the rocks that
were in the way were left there
for the most part, so you really have
to watch your feet. At the bottom of the hill, you’ll end up walking
beside the marsh. Leave the marsh
for a little while, climb a series of hills
and you’ll come to an absolutely wonderful
mature prairie, and you can see the
lake from the prairie. There are two benches there. It’s an incredibly peaceful
place to just sit and rest. A little further on, you’ll come to
another point of land that goes out,
with another bench. This is called Booth’s Point. And the land around there
is undergoing renovation. They took a brush hog
in and they cleared out all of the invasive shrubbery,
all of the garbage plants and they’re waiting for
the prairie to come back. Right now it doesn’t
look like much. Hopefully within a few
years it will be gorgeous. – I became a pasque
gardener before I started working in the trails, but when we put in the trails, you’d have all these people
that would be taking out all these Wisconsin natives. What I’ve started doing, I’ve started taking
them off the trails, I put them into a bucket, and I take them
home, restart them, and if they survive,
at a later date, I go back and either put
them back on the trail or I take those seeds and I take that and go
back to that same spot and sprinkle seeds
around in that area. – Maintaining the
trail is a lot of work. We have trees falling down, so we have to walk out and with chainsaws and
safety equipment and cut the trees up and
get them off the trail. We also mold the trail, we mold 21 miles of trails. So that the trails
are kept clear. And trees never fall
down next to the road. – And we go around
all summer long, it’s once a month, we go up, they give you a place
to camp, they feed you, always gain five
pounds when I’m there, and we’ve learned how to
put in bridges, boardwalks, retaining walls, cut down trees, we’ve seen areas of Wisconsin
that you never ever see, unless you’re actually
working in the trails. – The camaraderie on the
trail is absolutely wonderful. I’ve made such good friends. There’s many many of us
that hike regular together on Wednesdays and on Tuesdays. There’s parts, a lot of
us that go on longer hikes all over the state. We’ve done from Manitowoc
County to Baraboo, so we’ve got that
whole stretch done. That’s about 350 miles
and we’re planning to do the rest of it in
the next two years. – So if you’d like something
fun to do with the family, you can come out, take a hike, park along one of
the trail heads, go see a lake, we have
egrets and sandhill cranes. Bring the whole family
and enjoy the day. – We’ll tell you how
you can learn more about the Ice Age trail and
the Hank Aaron trail later in the show. Some of Wisconsin’s
hiking trails traverse state natural areas, and all of those are
open to the public. Here’s Natural Resources
Foundation board member Bill Smith, to tell us
about state natural areas and why they’re important. – It’s all about
connecting people to nature and providing support
to help nature out. In the big picture,
their mission is to connect people, connect
generations of people, to the wonder of Wisconsin’s
natural resources, the woods, the
water, the animals. And to build support for that. Traditionally what the
foundation has done is provides funding
to help fill gaps where the department and where
Wisconsin’s natural resources need help the most. Traditionally hunters
and anglers, trappers
pay for a lot of natural resource management
in the state of Wisconsin, but there are certain
parts of the programs that really aren’t aligned
with hunting and fishing. Those are some of
the non-game species, state natural areas,
things like that. And those are areas where the
foundation has helped out, again providing resources, and depending upon
the department to provide the expertise and identify where
those priorities are. The thing that was
compelling for me, I really enjoy the outdoors, I enjoyed it as a kid, I had wonderful
lifetime experiences that really affected the
person I am and my values. And I’ve shared those
with my family members and now I seen my grandkids
going through that. And to me it just highlights
the natural progression through the generations and those experiences
were wonderful to me, and it was worthwhile to me to devote some of my life energy into maintaining that and providing those experiences and passing that
on to other people. Aside from an individual,
natural resources are such an important part
of the state heritage. It’s who we are in Wisconsin,
it’s where we’ve come from. All the way from the
logging era, the fur era, to more modern management,
sustainable management of those natural resources. And to me it’s such
an important part of the identify of Wisconsin that we as a state also
need to be sensitive to those natural resources and pass those values on
to future generations, as well as the benefits
we get economically from natural
resource management, from the industries
associated with that, to our tourism industry. There’s just an awful lot
of people that come here to see and enjoy our
natural resources, and we need to be good managers to be able to sustain
that in the future. The foundation is right
in the middle of that, and to me it’s just
a perfect opportunity for people to get involved and contribute their energy, if they’re able, to
contribute their money, and to contribute
their personal support for natural resources
in Wisconsin. – We recorded that
interview several years ago. Today, there are 683
state natural areas. How many have you explored? Wisconsin is also
well-known for manufacturing with hundreds of machine shops large and small
throughout the state. I recently visited
a shop in Oshkosh where they make metal working
tools and custom hand guns. Well Ryan, Marvel’s been around for quite a while, hasn’t it? – It has been,
it’s 117 years old. And they started
out and still make metal cutting band saws, machining, and assembling, and that’s what
they’ve gotten good at. They manufacture and assemble
everything here in house, which you know, easily
transfers over to making quality 1911s is the
machining and the assembly is their forte, and that’s
what we still do with the guns. So then here we are
in the machine shop. This is where the
beginnings of the 1911 happen for us here
at Robert’s Defense. It starts off like
this out of house. As solid bricks of
stainless steel. When we receive them in house, this is what they
would look like. So this is what we would call, kind of in the business,
as an 80% frame and slide. They’re not considered fire arms and they wouldn’t work
if you wanted them to. So at this point, we bring
these to our machinists and our engineers, and they
take these frames and slides and they finish them out with
cutting the rails on the frame drilling some holes, and at that point it would
be considered a fire arm. So once these two pieces
are finished machine, they come out of the
machine like this. They have the slide cuts for the grip when
you’re racking it. They have the side
cuts cut in the top. And it’s at this
point if anyone wants any special sight cut,
that would be programmed into the machine as well and we do the special
cuts for them. And then the frame,
the rails are all cut, this part is taken
down a little bit, just a little bit of extra
metal in certain places, and then the slide, you know is fit by our
machinist to each frame, and then once we get
it back from here, they can take it
back to the shop. – So you put them together. – I do. Once there done out
in the machine shop, they bring them in here to me, and this is what you saw before they went
into the machine, the unfinished. And when the come
out, they’re tight, and after the come out
in a finished state, they’re a fire arm
by ATF standards. We’ve got seven days to put
the serial number on there, so it’s actually laser etched into the stainless or aluminum, depending on what
material we’re using. You can tell they’re
a little tight. And that’s where we
have to go through and hand lap them in, basically conditioning
the rails to the slide. – So you’re smoothing
the fit there? – Yes, all the parts
that we use are over size or what is referred
to as gunsmith fit, so we go through and hand
fit them into the gun, making sure that the
tolerances are right and the fit is good. And you’ll get this type
of feel and fit then. – Oh okay. – It’s in this form
where we fit the barrel and the bushing, go
through and do the blending with the extractor
and the ejector to give you the seamless line when the gun’s in battery. – Okay. – And then from there, then it gets worked
into a finished fire arm that you’d be able
to take the range. – Now do you test fire them before you send them out? – I do test fire them
before I send them out. I put two to three
mags through it unless it’s for a law
enforcement officer, then I put about
10 mags through it, and I do that at a
local range here. – Okay well I’d
like to shoot one. – Let’s go. So this is how we
load the gun, Dan. We’ll grab the mag, insert it, hit your slide stop
and put your safety on. – Okay. – And then for
your sight picture, you’re gonna wanna put
the top of the sights level with one another and put the dots on
top of each other. – Alrighty. And it’s ready to go? – It’s ready. (gunshots) – Let’s see how it shoots. (gunshots) Not bad. My first shot was
the best one though. – It happens. – Now let’s try the
nine millimeter. – Let’s. (gunshots) – I like the trigger
on the 45 better. It’s a different feel. – Yeah, yeah it has a
little bit different feel. – So wait a minute, Corey, I’m not gonna need ear
protection here, am I? – We’re not gonna
need these, no. – Okay, that’s good. So what else is the difference when you’re shooting a
gun with a suppressor? – Well when shooting a
gun with a suppressor, yes, the decibel’s reduced and then so is the felt recoil. – Okay, so it
won’t kick as much? – No it won’t. – Alright, well hold
that if you would. – You bet. – Same sight picture
though, right? – Same sight picture, yes. (gunshots) – Not a bad group, huh? – No and as you notice, the
accuracy is increased too because the pressure
behind the bullet is dispersed evenly. – That’s interesting. – Yeah. – Well thanks for
letting us see these guns and try them out. – Thank you. – I really like them. – Thank you. – We’ll wrap up this weeks
show with a taste of spring, shot and assembled by
videographer Brian Ewing. (guitar music) We hope those scenes inspire
you to get outdoors this season For more information on
this week’s features, log on to milwaukeepbs.org and click on Outdoor Wisconsin or visit the Outdoor
Wisconsin Facebook page. Well this show marks the
end of our 33rd season, and we hope you’ve enjoyed
the people we’ve met and the places we’ve visited. We’ll be featuring
encore programs now until our new season
begins, so stay with us. Saying goodbye from the
Urban Ecology Center here in Menominee Valley’s
Three Bridges Park, I’m Dan Small. Join us again next time
for Outdoor Wisconsin. (guitar music)

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