How I got into the GP training programme I MSRA exam I The Junior Doctor


hello everyone and welcome back to my
channel my name is Ezgi and I’m a 29 year old GP trainee working in a North
London hospital if you’re new to my channel then please subscribe and join
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enjoyed it so today I’m going to address a question
that I have been getting a lot since I’ve announced on Instagram and YouTube
that I am going to go into GP training after my f2 years so just a little bit
of a summary for those who don’t know once you graduate from medical school
you do f1 and f2 in the UK these are called foundation training years one and
two and it’s basically a start up and to get you into the world of medicine and
equipped you with everything that you should know before you go into specialty
training so when I got to my f2 I had made the decision that I want to go into
GP training and there’s lots of reasons I wanted to do this so for me the pros
were that I had patient continuity it was very frustrating for me in hospital
to see a patient and then not be able to see them the next day or clunk a patient
ami and then not be able to follow up what happened to them on the wards but
when I did my GP placement in f2 I really enjoyed the fact that the patient
came to see me I was able to prescribe something or send them away with some
advice and they would come back and tell me what’s changed what’s happened and
then we would sort of work things out from there and not only was it nice just
to see that patient again but it was also really helpful for my own learning
the second and most important thing that most people choose GP for is the fact
that it’s very flexible particularly once you finish the training and you
work as a GP you can choose the amount of sessions that you do so when we say
sessions that means a morning clinic from about 8 to 11 will be one session
so you can choose how many sessions you want to do a week how many hours you
want to do how many days you want to work and so it’s very flexible and for
that reason many people choose to go into it particularly those who are
planning on families and that’s what stuff anyway
so that’s just a quick summary of why I wanted to go into GP there’s lots of
other reasons why but I won’t go into it because this video is all about how I
got into GP training and the exams that I sacked the resources that are used and
what happened in the end so once I made the decision I wanted to go into this
training program I had to sign up to the application and this is done through
oriole so some of you may already remember this from when we were applying
for foundation programs so oriole is the sort of national website that we use to
apply for training programs this year’s training program application
starts from the 7th of November to the 28th of November and that usually
changes every year but it’s roughly sort of those days every year so what happens
is you’ll go onto the website you will put in all of your details and it will
ask you things like where you enter medical school like when you graduated
if your GMC you registered all of that sort of stuff and to make sure that you
actually fit the criteria to apply and then you get given the options of
ranking your choices so this year well when I applied they done it through like
each hospital so when I was applying it was things like Barney Enfield Hackney
that’s all stuff so you are able to apply for a specific area and so I
ranked all the ones I wanted to and I didn’t write too many because I said to
myself if I don’t get into these ones that I actually want and I’m not gonna
be moving away so if I don’t get them then I’ll just apply again next year so
I didn’t rank the 300 jobs aware that that was on that and then I sent my
application off so once you’ve submitted your application then you enter the face
of the exams and there are two things that you need to be able to do first you
need to sit the msre exam which stands for multi specialty recruitment
assessment I think and apart from GP trainees there are lots of other
specialities that also sit this exam and then I went ahead and I booked myself
onto the exam so the exam is free of charge
and so I didn’t need to pay anything for it I think the window for the exam was
between like the 3rd and the 7th of January and I books mine in the earliest
I can get it in because I just wanted to go sit it and get out the way and finish
with my exams and the second is you need to go to an interview which is basically
about five stations I think set up in an auskey way where you have a examiner and
a actor and then they observed your communication skills with them and I
think one of the stations is prioritization so it’s more like a
paper-based task but before I get into that I wanted to tell you best about how
I prepared for it so I get lots of questions about what resources are used
so the two and only resources are used were something called the mcq Bank and
the past medicine MS are a section of their websites but before I made this
decision to use these resources I read a really helpful PDF by somebody called
dr. Sarah Cooper’s GP recruitment guide I mean if you put that into Google or I
can link it down below as well you will get a a website boom to sign up
with your name and email etc and then you get sent a PDF and in this PDF is
the GP recruitment sort process all the things that you need to know some useful
advice from previous people who have applied and how they’ve been successful
so it was a useful guide to just read to get my head around you know what I was
going to do like I said I used the MC cube and compassed med and I have a tip
for you in regards to revising the sections from these exams so what I did
was when I first started I did something really silly which was I went on to the
question Bank and just did one question at a time so it was all very random so
I’d get like one question on cardiology one on rs1 and dime and and that’s that
sort of stuff but then I spoke to you one of the GP trainings that had already
got into the program and the way they did it was they chose us
checked from each question Bank and did that one at a time so I would go to mzq
Bank I would do cardiology on there so all of the questions and then I would go
on to past medicine and do all of the cardiology questions on there and then
sort of write notes as I’m going along nothing too extensive just the bits and
pieces that I want to remember at the end of that session and so that just
really helped me consolidate all of the knowledge so I did that with all of the
topics and I left the SJT component to the end I think I’d booked my exam for
5th of January last year I left the sjt to the last two weeks so when each
question bank they have the sjt component on there and the way I went
about it was just going through each question and reading the reasoning and
some of the questions were bit off and I didn’t really agree with them but
generally I was getting like the correct answers and I think now that I have done
f1 f2 it was much easier for me to work out what to do in these ethical
scenarios that they were presenting me with I could actually imagine myself in
that situation and think practically what would I do so it’s much easier this
time around than it was when I did it in final year for my foundation year
application the msre exam is based on a computer and if you remember from when
he did the UK cats or even when he did your theory test for your driver’s
license it’s in the same test centre so when I walked in I was looking at
everyone doing their theory tests and I was like oh my god I’d love to be doing
what you’re doing right now because I just really don’t want to be sitting
this exam they give you headphones so you’re not distracted by everyone coming
in and out they give you a whiteboard and a pen so you can jot a few things
down and you are allowed to choose where you want to sit so why chose some lawyer
that was in the corner that wasn’t in the middle of the room where people were
gonna keep walking past me so I sat there i did the exam sort of when I was
putting on the headphones I sort of shut everything off focused on what was in
front of me I didn’t really struggle with time I
thought the timing was quite fair I got through some of the questions very
quickly but they were very simple questions and
one-word answers that didn’t really need much input from me only some of the
questions that took time with the sjt questions and some of the
multiple-choice questions I just had to be careful with I finished the exam I
left everything then I just forgot about it and then went home I think it was
about I’m gonna say I’m gonna say the wrong thing now I think it was about a
month later or about three weeks later that we got the results so we you have
to wait for everybody to finish their exams so I was the one who sat the exam
like first and just bear in mind also that the exam is different for everybody
so once you sit the exam on a third you can’t then come out and tell your friend
the questions because when they sit on the fourth or the fifth it’s gonna be
completely different so anyway so I came out with exam three weeks later got an
email saying that everyone had sat the exams they put everyone on the scale and
anybody who was who scored more than 550 points was fast-tracked past the
interviews which meant that you got a place straightaway and didn’t need to go
to the interview phase and I was very lucky that I was one of those people I
think I ended up scoring really well in a couple of the bits like in particular
and so I was just completely fast-tracked and it was such a sigh of
relief that I didn’t need to then continue on and prepare for the
interviews but I had quite a few friends who had to do the interviews so just to
just to give you an idea apparently I’m 25% of the people get over 550 I’m not
sure if that’s true and anybody that gets less than that is invited to go to
the interview but if you get a really really low score I think you’re just not
allowed to proceed at all so you just have to try again next year so a few of
my friends went to the interview phase the way they prepared was to pair up
with people that were already sitting the interviews as well and I’ll think of
some resources down below but they use some websites I think the GP recruitment
website also has some scenarios and I think the mcq bank also had some
scenarios so they basically sat together either on FaceTime Skype or face-to-face
and went through these scenarios and basically acted out what they would do
in the exam and all of them went to the interview smashed it and got the place
that they wanted so just because you don’t get a fast track doesn’t mean
you’re very unlikely to go somewhere really far or go somewhere that you
don’t want once everybody has completed the interview phase then you’ll be
you’ll have the confirmation of where you got as your placement because I was
able to fast track the interviews I was very confident that I was going to get
my first choice placement and I so I was very happy with that all of the rankings
were locked and everyone made their last choices and then the application shot
down I think about couple of weeks after that everyone got their offer so you
would get an email to say well done you’ve been allocated so-and-so and you
either accept or decline and obviously because I got my first choice I accepted
and that’s what it wanted however some people wanted to decline and be put on a
waiting list to see if there were anything that they’d ranked higher would
become available because what happens is people sit these exams they get to the
end again offer and actually they want to go and do something else like
medicine or surgery and so they withdraw their application altogether and if that
happens and that spot then becomes free you can bump your application up so
that’s what some people did when you get to you the end of this process you can
also define your entry so many of my friends that I know ended up deferring
their entries some of them why because they were traveling some of them were
because they had a wedding to plan and others just wanted some time off before
they committed themselves to a busy router so you can defer your entry for
the next year so this brings us to you about the end of February at this point
bearing in mind that we ended up applying in November and the start date
for this is August and 2020 or August whenever it is that you apply now there
are some people who do this out of sync so there’s a couple of people on our
program who have started in February so there are some opportunities to apply
later on in the and join the program in the February
cohort so I think that means that they end up applying around July August from
the year before end up sitting the msre around October if I’m not wrong and then
then start their program in February because our GP programs are six monthly
so once I finish herbs and going for example now in February I’ll be going
into medicine so there might be a few new starters that are joining us in
February so it’s a bit of out of sync however most people do do the August
starts but it’s not the end of the world if you’ve missed it or you’ve changed
your mind and you want to join in later so that’s all the information I have
guys I will link everything that I know down below I hope I’ve answered most of
your questions there’s one other thing that I’d like to add at the end of this
video before I finish I know that there are a lot of international medical
graduates who are also interested in coming to the UK to be a GP I will give
you a story of one of my colleagues who did that and her outcome but like I said
I don’t know very much about the process so please don’t ask me any more
questions so to the best of my knowledge and if you are an international medical
graduate who comes to the UK does all their exams and gets their GMC license
can apply for the GP training program however the UK and residents and that
also UK graduates are given priority over these jobs so what one of my
colleagues ended up doing is she ends up doing the msre
and the interview however she had to wait for everybody to have their offers
see what was left and then was put in to a place and I think he ended up being
her 20th choice but like I said what happened was because loads of people
withdraw their applications because I know what no longer wanted to go ahead
with the program she then got bumped up to her seventh choice so despite you
being left behind and given the last choice options because the UK residents
are given priority it doesn’t mean that you’ll be left with a crappy job if
that’s what makes sense so yeah that’s all the information I have for you today
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