An Overview of the 2019 ICPSR Summer Program


[Saundra] Thank you Anna. Welcome to all of you who are attending this
overview of the 2019 ICPSR Summer Program. And welcome back if this is a repeat performance
for those of you who may have been, either to the Program before, or have visited
through the webinars that we’ve done in the past What I’m going to do is give you, what is
described as, an overview of the Program. And in order to, kind of, start with the basics
I’m going to just give you, in the very first slide that you have, a sense of what we will cover. And I’ll do this very quickly so that you
have an idea of what to expect over the next 45 minutes or so. First of all I’ll introduce the staff of
the Program, and then I’ll move and talk just a very brief bit about the history of the Summer Program. Not to worry, I’m not going to dwell a lot
on the historical evolution of the Program, but it’s important to give you a sense of
where we came from. And then give you an idea of how we fit into the larger organization
of ICPSR, as well as the Institute for Social Research here. And then move very quickly to reasons why
you want to attend, the curriculum-which is probably what people are very interested in,
as well as how to register, how to get discounts, and if you can’t get a discount think about
what the fee structure is. And to emphasize the many scholarships that
we now have available for participants, some very new scholarships and some not so new,
some older scholarships. And address issues, again, of importance of
housing and lodging. And then we’ll open it up to questions and answers. And at point, what I would suggest is that if you
have questions along the way, you can jot them down, think about them, or go ahead and, you
know, make sure that you keep track of them and then when we get to that part of the webinar
you can send those to us and the staff will be more than able to answer all the questions
that you have or at least get answers for you at a later time. So again, very quickly, the staff of the Summer Program. I am the Director of the Program and in addition
to myself there are a number of other people who you would encounter if you attend the
Program in Ann Arbor. Dieter Burrell, who is the Project Manager
of Educational Services. Edward Czilli, who plays the role in terms
of Project Manager of Computing Services to make sure that all the software and the hardware
that we need is critical to operate the Program is available. Fillippo Stargell, who is a Financial Specialist.
Who plays the major role in terms of making sure that, we not only have the finances to
run the Program, but that we’re able to dispense those finances in a way so that all of you
are able to attend the program i.e. though scholarships and so forth. He’s also the main person in charge of the
support staff in the summer. We do have a number of temporary employees
who we bring on in the summer to help because that is really the busiest time for the Summer Program. Stephanie Carpenter, who is a Digital and
Educational Support Specialist. Who you probably have already encountered
if you’ve communicated with the Program via email or via Facebook or social media. She’s the one who would normally respond and
gives you the answers to your questions. She’s also the individual who sends out the
various advertisements and promotionals about the program, just to get the word out about
what we’re listing as our courses, when the registration dates open and so forth. Scott Campbell, who is a Videographer, who
has take a number of really fantastic videos of the activities and people who have gone
through the program over the last couple of years. If you’ve not seen any of those videos, again,
I encourage you to take a look at them.You can see them on YouTube, you can see some
of them on the website. So again, check them out, they’re really quite
good and they give you a very nice feel of what’s it’s like to attend the Summer Program. Very quickly, the history of the Summer Program. It’s been around for over 50 years. It started out relatively small and you see
here the first class participants who attended the Program in Ann Arbor. It did begin in Ann Arbor and at that stage there were no courses in
other locations either in the US or around the world. It also had a very small curriculum. So the number of courses that we were able
offer was pretty minimal and we focused a lot on, what is referred to as, the basics,
the fundamental courses in the Social Sciences, on research design, on how to actually conduct
research and some of the really essential analytic tools that you’d need like linear
models and so forth. Since that time the Program has grown, (clears
throat) excuse me, pretty substantially and it has remained the unit within ICPSR which,
as Anna mentioned, is one of the major, if not the major, international consortiums of
academic institutions and research organizations around the world. For those of you who are conducting research
or who are thinking about doing research or who may be even doing exercises or assignments
in classes, often times the datasets that you’re using or will use are coming from ICPSR. And ICPSR not only has those datasets, so
we keep them available for people, but we also play a major role in ensuring that that
data is quality data that can be used at later points in time and that can still be accessible
and can still provide answers to your questions. So it’s a major enterprise, it’s a major, really
significant element of not only what ICPSR does but the fact that the Summer Program
is housed within that major organization. Why attend the Program? There are a number of reasons which I’ll just
reel off and let you think about. One, is that that are instructors who are covering
the courses, who are teaching the classes, who are leading experts in the field. And that’s not to say that you’re not going
to encounter experts in various analyses at your home institutions, but what makes the
Summer Program novel and unique is that we have such a package of high quality experts
who are providing that instruction and who are giving it to you during the summer and
during the time that you’re here. They not only have the expertise and the skill
level, but they’re able to provide individual guidance to you. And for those of you who have
taken methods courses you know how important that is. Being able to ask questions. Being able to go to an instructor, and to
be able to work through exercises, and our instructors are very adept at doing that.
We also have a large teaching assistant staff that helps the instructors which provides,
kind of, another level of guidance and support for all of our participants. The courses are designed to cover almost any
area in social science methodology and, in fact, we’ve branched beyond not only the social
sciences but into the behavioral and the health sciences. So we cover the basic courses, introductory
statistics, introductory level mathematics courses. And then we also, at the other end
of the continuum, will cover advanced methodology courses that are not taught at most other universities. So there are cutting edge techniques for those
who want to expand and then there are basic introductory courses for those who need the
essential skills to move forward. Another reason has to do with the networking abilities. You meet a lot of people when you attend the
Summer Program in Ann Arbor or at the other off-site locations. And these are connections,
these are really the opportunities that you encounter in the Summer Program that you will
carry with you through out your professional careers. This not only involves the instructional staff,
but it involves the other participants. Over and over again we hear comments and reports
from participants who get involved in research projects with other participants while they’re
in the Program and then 5, sometimes 10, 15 years later, they’re still involved those individuals
in additional research projects. So those are opportunities that you have to
continue research and to meet people who you would not necessarily meet if you’re just
in your own professional kind of domain. The Curriculum. We have the mainstay of the Program, the four-week
sessions, which start this year on June 24th and the second session will end on August 16th. These are broken down into two four-week sessions. So the first one, June 24th through July 19th and then the second one starts July 22nd to August 16th. Held in Ann Arbor. Courses are broken down into workshops that
are two hour stints, primarily. Lectures which are normally about an hour
or so long. And then we have additional lectures, which I refer to as “fun lectures”, these are
the Blalock Lectures, on a variety of topics which supplement and augment your, not only,
the methods training that you get but the substantive training in various topics like:
race, ethnicity, and diversity, and so forth. The four-week sessions form the core of the
Summer Program. And we have some new workshops that we’re
offering as well as new lectures in 2019. I encourage you to look at the website that
has the current listing of the four-week sessions and it will continue to be updated as we move along. We have a new workshop on Machine Learning
and a new lecture on, actually in both of the four-week sessions, on Python. Yeah, the traditional workshops as well, so
if you need something on Network Analysis, or Bayesian Analysis, or Maximum Likelihood
Estimation, all of those workshops are there as well. In addition, we have the lectures which compliment
those workshops on basic math and on computer skills dealing with the really, kind of, dominant
computing program, software programs: SPSS, Stata, and R. Again, a point I’ll emphasize
which is at the bottom of this slide, is that, again, a unique feature of the Summer Program is
that you can change your course selections. And you can do that, not only before you actually
come to Ann Arbor for the four-week courses, but you can do that during the time that you’re in Ann Arbor. Now we encourage you to do that early in the
four-week sessions, but we think it’s important that you really end up in the right course. So that if you’ve signed up for a course that
does not seem to be appropriate, you can move to another course that is more appropriate
and more at your skill level, that’s going to give you more that you need in terms of
your research. Blalock Lectures, which I referred to before,
are presented in the evening and they are conducted by a wide range of researchers and
professionals across, again, a whole spectrum of different orientations and different disciplines
and backgrounds. They deal with professionalization issues:
how to get a research grant, how to conduct… if you’re interested in publishing in an academic
journal or university press, issues of that you need to be concerned about having to do
with transparency in reproducibility in the social sciences, and issues that cover race,
ethnicity, gender, and diversity which are designed to help you, just kind of, think through
not only the issues of measurement but the issues of data collection and the issues of
doing analysis if your substantive topics cover those particular areas. The short workshops, which we did not have
when the Program first began, have really exploded in number and in … not only number
of courses but the number of locations. We now have over 40 workshops scheduled for
2019 including workshops here in Ann Arbor and workshops in: Amherst, Massachusetts;
in Berkeley, California; Boulder, Colorado; Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Houston, Texas;
Salt Lake City, Utah; and a new location, at least a new branch of a location Vancouver,
British Columbia, Canada. I just learned this morning, that we will
be also offering a repeat of the Field Experimental course which was conducted last year in Europe,
in Florence, Italy and the plan is to repeat that again in July 2019. What’s different about these short workshops
is that they give you more specialized knowledge, more specialized exposure on particular topics. Classes are smaller so that if you want to
have a more, kind of, managed environment in terms of learning the material, the short
workshops are probably the way to go. They’re also convenient if you cannot make
it to Ann Arbor in the summer. I know a lot of people would like to come
to Ann Arbor, perhaps not today when it’s snowy and cold, but in the summer when the
weather is really quite beautiful, but it may be difficult to get to Ann Arbor and it
may be easier to get to one of the workshops in another place. (coughs) Excuse me. We also have sponsored short workshops. One on … and I list them here, so you get an idea. These are on various substantive topics. And one of these has been repeated for the
last, I guess, three years, the Panel Study of Income Dynamics or the PSID workshop; the
Monitoring the Future workshop, which is also a repeat from previous years; the PATH workshop,
and perhaps some other workshops that are just now being formulated. So again, things to kind of keep in mind. The difference with the sponsored short workshops
is that these are, as the name implies, sponsored by an outside organization that works with
ICPSR in order to administer the workshop. And so the actual registration and the actual
conduct of the workshops operate a little bit differently. How to register. This a question that everybody, kind of, wants
to know the answer to when you’re thinking about attending the Program. Registration for all courses will open up
on Tuesday, February 12th and that’s not very far away. You can go to the Summer Program portal to
get information about how to register, how do you log in. You will need a MyData account. That information on the Summer Program portal is important for you to know, and to take a look at, and
to follow because it will really help guide you through the registration process. And once you’ve done the basic registration:
you fill out the form, select your courses, and complete the payment. So pretty straight forward. The Status & Academic Credit for the Program. There are different ways that you can sign up for the Program. The admission status will ask you, when you
register, if you’re taking this as a non-credit student versus a credit student. The norm is for non-University of Michigan
students to take courses on a non-credit basis, not by checking the credit basis. The credit status requires a separate application
to University of Michigan and it also carries with it the standard University of Michigan tuition rate. So if you are a University of Michigan student
and you want to get University of Michigan credit, that’s the way to go. If you’re not, then the alternative is to
go the non-credit route. (coughs) Excuse me. Registration status. As I mentioned, the vast majority of participants
sign up as a non-credit and you pay the registration fee directly to ICPSR. Excuse me, I’m suffering from a winter cold here. How to register through the Summer Program,
again, it is all available on the portal so you just follow that along. Make sure that you, kind of, follow the various
steps that are identified. I mentioned the registration status for credit
students, so I won’t go back through this again but you need to make sure that if you
are a University of Michigan student this is most likely the path that would lead you in this direction, that you follow those directions very carefully. You can only get credit, U of M credit, for
four-week courses. You cannot get credit for the short workshops
no matter where they’re held. Once again, just to reiterate, you have to
pay the tuition of the University of Michigan. And you actually have to register through
both the University of Michigan’s registration system and through the ICPSR Summer Program portal. Deadlines. Four-week sessions, no deadlines. Obviously if you’re attending the first four-week
session, you need to make sure that you register and that you pay before the sessions starts. If you’re thinking about a one week course,
a short workshop, then you need to register and pay for the course at least one week prior
to the start of the workshop. As I previously noted, the sponsored short
workshops operate a bit differently with various application deadlines and time frames, so
just follow the directions if you’re interested in one of those sponsored workshops. The incentive is to register early because
we have discounts for early registration and that’s particularly important for the four-week sessions
where the registration fees really do go up significantly. The short workshops, it’s important as well,
not only for the fees but also because of seat availability. Some of the short workshops are very popular,
and if you don’t register early and reserve your spot then you may, unfortunately, not
be able to attend the course. This is the list of the registration fees. Again, you can find all of this on our website. It gives you a really good breakdown of early
fees versus if you apply later or register later. And the differences between the short workshops,
which are included at the top part of this registration fee format, and then the one
week, excuse me, the four-week sessions at the bottom half of the slide. Discounts. Early registration, I mentioned. You can also get a discount if you’ve been
a participant of the Program in the past, which is always a good deal. We love to have people come back to the Program. There are multiple registrations discounts,
so that if you are taking several courses: a four-week session and a short workshop,
or two or three short workshops, not including the sponsored workshops, again there are reduction
in fees- 15% off of the registration fees. There’s also a group discount for units, departments,
programs, organizations that send more than five participants. And if your department or school or college
is interested in pursuing a group discount you need to contact us directly and let us
know that’s of interest, and then we’ll follow up with the directions of how to proceed with that. Scholarships. This is another frequent question that we
get, “How can I get some help?” Scholarships are available, a whole range
of them. And they cover all of the major fields in the social sciences from history, sociology,
political science, education, public policy, public administration, psychology, on down
to giving you the ability, again, if you attended the Program in the past, to come back and
repeat participation in 2019, that’s the Heitowit Scholarship. So check out all those scholarships, and keep
in mind that if you’re interested you can apply, you just need to apply before March
31st and you need to make sure that you proceed with completing the application materials
according to the info on the website for that scholarship. You can apply for more than one scholarship,
that’s not a problem. It’s always a good idea, in fact preferable that you apply for a scholarship
that is really closest to your interest and your needs. But there are several scholarships that may
overlap in terms of their ability to, kind of, cover what you want to do and what you’re experiences are. So don’t hesitate if there are several scholarships,
you can apply for several of them. There’s a new scholarship which we initiated last year. A diversity scholarship to help, this year,
not only incoming graduate students, i.e. those who are just starting graduate school,
but also to help returning graduate students from underrepresented groups enhance their
methodological skills by attending one or both of our 2019 four-week sessions. In addition to providing coverage of your
registration fees, the Diversity Scholarship also provides a stipend to help individuals
who attend the four-week sessions in their lodging, and their travel, and in their food costs
during the time they’re in Ann Arbor. Again, applications are due by March 31st of this year. Very briefly, housing and lodging. I said this a couple of times today but I’ll
repeat it again, we get lots of questions about: “Where can I stay, and how do I get to Ann Arbor?” Four-week participants, oftentimes arrange
to get a sublet, sublet an apartment or a room near campus. There are a number of student apartment complexes
very close, on central campus, which is where the Summer Program operates. As well as, the
other areas around Ann Arbor which make it very accessible for you to get to campus. There’s off-campus housing, there’s co-operative
housing that’s available through the Inter-cooperative Council, co-op housing. And again, you can find other resources. We
keep posting as much as we can on our website so that you get up-to-date information about
housing that we know is available to you and keep following that, keep monitoring that
because that’s information that changes very frequently. The short workshops, again these are, since
they’re shorter in time frame, it’s not probably as likely that someone is going to get a sublet
an apartment or sublet a room, whereas very much more likely that you’d want to think
about getting a room either at one of the hotels or lodging establishments that are
close to campus or maybe working through others who are attending the workshop to make sure
that you are able to get a set of rooms. Some of the apartment complexes now in Ann
Arbor are making that available where they have short term leases that they can provide. It is not a common as it is for the four-week
participants to sublet but it is a possibility. So with that, let me open it up and turn it
over to all of you to see if you have questions or if you need any further clarification not
only about material that I covered, but perhaps material or some questions that you have that you
didn’t get your answers to. So with that I’ll turn it back to Stephanie
who is going to monitor the questions and identify who will respond. [Stephanie] All right, thanks everybody for joining us today. My name is Stephanie. A couple things before we start out, like
Sandy said, go ahead and send in your questions. We will do our best to get them all answered
today but we often get a lot of questions. So if for some reason we don’t get a chance
to answer yours in particular, don’t worry, we will follow up with you via email in the
near future to get you the info that you need. And then also, I want to let people know that
following this webinar we will go ahead and make slides available along with the recording
of it and we’ll send that out to you via email within the next day or so. So be looking forward to that, as well. So we will go ahead and start with a question
that we got early on about absences, specifically an absence in a four-week session. Somebody wants to know if they need to miss
a week in the four-week session should they not attend? Sandy, would you like to answer that? [Sandy] I will answer that. That is, again, a question that comes up every
now and then because it’s very common for people to have other commitments during the
summer, either they have family commitments that they need to attend or they have professional
commitments, conferences and meetings to attend. It is possible to go ahead and attend a four-week
session even if you have to miss a week. It is important that if you are going to do
that, that when you get to the Summer Program and you have identified the courses that you’re
taking that you talk to the instructor, instructors of the courses that you’re taking right away
and let them know that you are not going to be there for a certain period of time. All the instructors will work with you and
they will also suggest that you work with their teaching assistants to make sure that
any material that you are not able to see and hear first hand, that you’ll still get
even though you’re not going to be physically present. [Stephanie] Great, thank you. So I see we’re getting a lot of questions
about scholarships, so I’ll try to address a lot of those. Our scholarship application manager will open
around the same time that registration opens on February 12th. So you’re not going to be able to submit any
applications until that time. We will provide a link to that application
manager on our scholarship page on our website, so you can look forward to that. If you do want to apply for a scholarship,
you do not have to pay the registration fee in advance in order to apply. If it turn out that you don’t get a scholarship
but you’d still like to attend, we’re going to go ahead and give you that early payment
discount even if our decision comes after the May 1st deadline for our four-week courses,
which it typically does. It typically takes us at least a month, sometimes
six weeks, to go ahead and notify all of our applicants about a scholarship decision. So we typically let people know by mid-May
and we will go ahead and send out all of those notifications via email. Let’s see what other questions we’ve got. Sandy, you would be best suited to address this. Somebody has asked when the schedule for the
three to five-day workshops will be released? [Sandy] It is almost complete. I have a few additions that I’m making, hopefully
they’ll be finalized either today or tomorrow. And you should be able to have, I should say/
qualify … a complete 99.9% complete, schedule of the short workshops. The one thing that always makes a short workshops
different from the four weeks is that there’s a lot more change, and a lot more fluctuation
because there’s so many different locations. We have nine locations where we’re offering
these workshops and that means there are lots of different people involved in trying to
make the logistical arrangements. The bottom line is that you should be able
to see the complete schedule of the short workshops within a day or so. [Stephanie] Great. So we have some questions about what is an
appropriate course load for a four-week sessions. So somebody is wondering if just one course
is okay, or if they should be signed up for courses, basically, from 9 am to 7 pm? Sandy or Dieter, what would you recommend for that? [Sandy] I’ll jump in, and then Dieter you
can certainly add to this. I recommend that you consider signing up for
two workshops during the four-week session, and that you identify one of those two workshops
as your key fundamental workshop. The one that you’re really going to focus
the most time and attention on. The second workshop being one where you can
get exposed to, maybe, a topic that you’re curious about or maybe need a refresher in. In addition to two workshops you’re more than,
certainly it’s more than possible and doable to sign up for several lectures. The statistical computing lectures are designed
to compliment the short workshops, so that’s always possible to sign up for one of those
computing lectures. And then we have three different math lectures in the first session. So again, these are supplemental. The lectures do not carry exercises or assignments
or, so called, homework. So they’re good ways of, kind of, filling
in the material that you need for a workshop. My recommendation is two workshops and focus on one. [Dieter] This is Dieter. And just to add to what Sandy said, if you
took classes from 8 or 9 in the morning to 7 at night, the problem is that you wouldn’t
have enough time in the evenings to do your homework, to do the readings, the materials
from the class, to do the computer lab exercises you need to do, or things like that. Since the classes, the workshops meet two
hours a day for each one of them, every week day. You don’t have as much time to catch up if
you get a little behind than you would in a regular semester when your classes only
meet, maybe once a week and you’ve got the evenings, weekends for things like that. So that’s why having too much of a heavy load
can cause more problems than just having a regular or standard workload. [Stephanie] Great, thank you. Edward, we have a question for you regarding computing software. Somebody has asked, “Will software be provided
with registration for SPSS, Stata, etc.?” [Edward] Sure. All of the workshops are served with a virtual
desktop environment which allow you to bring your own personal computer and you can access
all the software that is required for use in your particular course of study on that virtual desktop. If there are certain packages which are available
for download and installation locally, for example, in previous years we have been able
to offer a limited term license for Stata or you might require R, for example, or R Studio. There will be assistance, during your time
here, to help you install that software locally. But if it is a commercial product that needs
to be licenced separately you’ll find it in the virtual desktop environment. [Stephanie] Great, thank you. Somebody has asked if they will receive grades as a non-credit participant? Sandy, would you like to answer that? [Sandy] In the past, we had distributed grade reports or grade level memorandum to non-credit participants. And we will continue to provide either a letter or some kind of certification that indicates the performance that you had in that class. We cannot give you official University of Michigan credit or official University of Michigan grades, because even though we operate on the University of Michigan campus we don’t have the ability to actually administer grades in that way and provide credit. What you can do is once you get the information about your performance in a course, and these would only be possible in the four-week workshops, not the lectures or the short workshops, you could take that information back to your home institution and talk to your supervisor or your graduate director about your performance and then they decide what the appropriate grade or the appropriate certification might be for what you did in the Summer Program. And that process will continue. [Stephanie] Somebody has asked, “Are there course materials that we will be required to purchase or are those included in the registration fee?” Dieter, would you like to answer that? [Dieter] Sure. It depends on the course. In some of the short 3- to 5-day courses the reading materials will be provided. In fact, on almost all of them, some materials will be provided in the classroom as part of the activity there. You don’t have to purchase it separately. Although for a few other ones, I would think, such as the Structural Equation courses, things like that, people have bought a textbook beforehand and used that to get themselves familiar with the material in the class before they get there. For the four-week classes if there’s a textbook for the course you’ll need to purchase that yourself. You should either get that in advance. Or if you really know and are sure that you’re going to sit through a class or take a course then you can purchase that textbook in advance. Otherwise, you might wait until you get here and decide exactly what course you’re going to take. Usually you can get a textbook quick shipped to Ann Arbor in a couple days. In addition to a specific textbook, which might be the main textbook, if there are multiple readings, articles, or other reading materials like that, we have them on a network drive that we make available to anybody in that course. So those you won’t have to purchase. [Stephanie] Thank you. Sandy, a question for you. Somebody has asked, “Would they still qualify as a graduate student for scholarships if they plan to graduate in May of 2019?” [Sandy] I’m not sure of the current status of the individual asking the question. I think this might be … it certainly is possible if you’re currently in a graduate program and you’re going to be graduating in May that we would still consider you to be a student from that institution, from that program. We sometimes get people who are requesting that same kind of information after a longer period of time, and those are requests that we deal with, really, on a one by one basis. But if you’re graduating this May, then you’re still considered to be part of that institution, part of that program. And that’s important if the institution where you’re coming from, the program you’re attending is in that institution, if you’re an ICPSR member institution because then you get the ICPSR member rate. [Stephanie] Thank you. We’ve had a question about how expensive it is to live in Ann Arbor during the summer. For anybody that has that question, I’d actually encourage you to reach out to us via email. We have a document that provides a budget template that can tell you about housing cost, food cost, and other cost, including transportation, that you can expect to pay during the summer. So once again, just send us an email and we’ll be happy to provide that to you. Somebody has asked, “What days our four-week courses meet?” “If they meet seven days a week?” No, thankfully we give you weekends off. Our four-week courses meet Monday through Friday for the month that they’re scheduled. So you do get some time to take a break, and relax, and enjoy being in Ann Arbor. Sandy, we had a question, this is, kind of unique. Somebody has said, “If my university wanted to have an ICPSR instructor visit to cover a specific topic, how would we go about that?” [Sandy] That’s a really nice question. I’m always interested in getting solicitations for instructors, for people who are interested in coming to the Program, maybe sitting through a course, or maybe giving a lecture. What I would say is that you contact me directly and, kind of, give me a brief sense about what the interest is and time frames and so forth, and I’ll follow up and we’ll see if we can make it happen. [Stephanie] Somebody has asked when we will upload the schedule four-week sessions. I’m glad to say that those courses, for the most part, have been added to our website. To find them, just go to our schedule page and then you’ll see a couple of tabs. One is for the first four-week session, and then one is for the second four- week session. So you should be able to go ahead and see what times we’re offering our courses. And then, if you want, you can click on those titles and you’ll get more detailed information about the course, and prerequisites, and in some cases you’ll get a chance to watch a video of the instructor giving you information about the course. Somebody has asked when we’re going to update or provide our course selection guide for our four-week sessions for 2019? We are working on that and we’ll get that posted online before registration opens on February 12th. So thanks for your patience for that. It looks like we’ve, kind of, answered most of our questions. For some of the more complicated ones we will be happy to reach out to you via email also. With that I would say that our webinar has come to a close. [Sandy] Thank you all.

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